I Scoot, You Scoot, I Suggest You Stop “Scooting”


There's a lot of "scoot" games on TpT. You shouldn't use any of them.

There’s almost 18,0000 versions of “scoot” games on TpT. Robert says you shouldn’t use any of them.

Robert has been selling materials on TeachersPayTeachers for the past few years (he won’t call them “products,” because that’s debasing his “process,” whatever that means….), and one thing has always mystified him:

What’s the deal with “Scoot?”

To those of you who have been living in a cave alongside Donald Trump, the idea of “scoot” is to number a bunch of “task cards,” put one on each student’s desk, and then have them work on the problem for a few minutes, bang a pot, or use some other signal, and send kids on to the next problem. Teachers claim it’s great because it gets the kids to practice and they can move around the room, yadda yadda yadda. 

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According to Robert, who has only been working in classrooms since like Neolithic times, this is a seriously bad practice, especially with mathematics.

Here be his three reasons:

Scoot sends the wrong messages about mathematics: If you’re wondering why your students can’t perseverate (yes, that’s a real word) with doing a multi-step math problem, it’s because they’ve been playing too much Scoot. Scoot communicates to children that they have to do math fast, like really fast, and then move on to the next problem. This is not what mathematics is all about. Most people who “know” mathematics understand it is an intense discipline which requires careful thought and attention to details. Scoot reinforces the idea that “good” math is “fast” math. Uh huh….

Scoot makes kids anxious: See those kids who look like they’re having fun? Robert tells me that there are a good number who dread playing this game (contrary to their willingness to “go along”), because the pace is so fast that they never get to finish a problem, and those that they hurry through to finish are often wrong. Meanwhile, all around them they see a friend who has finished their card and is waiting for the pot to be banged. Robert fondly remembers being the last one to finish anything in school, and he recalls nothing is more humiliating than watching the kids next to him finish their multiplication tests before him on a very consistent basis. And you wonder why he calls his career in teaching math “a from of revenge…”

Scoot is dumb: Okay, this is easily open to misinterpretation – when Robert use words like “dumb” and “smart” when referencing math activities, he’s talking about “smart” as giving kids the right amount of time and resources to do different levels of challenges, while “dumb” is giving exactly the same amount of time to do exactly the same thing over and over again. Since the rules of scoot demand that each problem be completed in the same amount of time, the types of problems you can give are pretty limited. That’s “dumb.”

Okay, big mouth, what’s your alternative to “Scoot?”

Robert claims he’s never, every used a “scoot” type game in a classroom, and you know what, his students get just as much practice as yours. Nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh. Instead, Robert has his kids work on “Fishbowl Problems.” From what I understand, a “fishbowl” is where you create all different types of math problems related to a subject, making some easy and some hard, mix them up in a “fishbowl” (or a hat, or a large jar, or what have you….) and then circulating around the room letting kids take a problem out of the jar. That actually sounds kind of cool – why didn’t my teachers do that when I was growing up?

Here’s the great part: the kids don’t know what problem the other kids are working on, so if Rahim needs 8 minutes to finish a medium challenge problem, he doesn’t get anxious, because he doesn’t know what type of problem Schwarmala or Dobie or Cookiehead is working on. Moreover, he may finish that problem and then move on to a second problem which is pretty easy, knock it out in 3 minutes and then flex his mojo on a third problem. The point here is this: “fishbowl” is “smart” because there are different kinds of problems to work on and nobody get’s anxious, because there isn’t all this time pressure from the bang of a gong. A kid might select a very challenging problem and feel good that she completed that single problem in 20 minutes, while another kid may do 4 different easier problems during the same amount of time.

This all sounds kind of reasonable to me, but the question is, what should a teacher do with the dozens of “scoot” materials he/she has already purchased? Robert told me that if you add some easier and harder problems, they could easily be turned into “fishbowl” exercises.

So listen to Robert’s admonition and please, PLEASE! Stop “scooting” and start “fishbowling.”


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No, Using Singapore Math Will NOT Put Your School On Top Of ANY List…

As mentioned in my previous post, Robert subscribes to a homegrown philosophy of “good” math teaching that relies on some simple principles. His first one, The Vidal Sassoon Principle, focuses on making teachers look good through encouragement and “having their back” if something they try doesn’t go as planned. Today we’ll look at another part of Robert’s coaching philosophy, which he calls “The Sy Syms Principle.”

What did this schmata salesman have to say about math coaching?

Sy Syms, if you were growing up in the New York area in the 70’s, owned a chain of men’s clothing stores called, yes, “Syms.” While Robert never had the opportunity to shop at Syms (he was more of a “Gap” sort of guy, before they went all khaki), he never forgot the tagline on Sy’s commercials: “An educated consumer is our best customer.” This can be reconfigured in several ways to fit what happens in the classroom, including “a well informed educator is our best teacher…..”

So what does this have to do with Singapore Math? First, many schools adopt this curriculum, or its bastardized variants, with the belief that if they slavishly “teach the book,” including the “bar model,” their students will generate the same math scores that puts Singapore at the top of all international comparisons. Sure, this is an admirable goal, but any school that adopts this curriculum based solely on international scores is going to be very, very disappointed in the results.

If these numbers were "true," then monkeys would come flying out of my butt....

If these numbers were “true,” then monkeys would come flying out of my butt….

What the sales people for these curricula are loath to reveal is that Singapore is a very, very different country than the USA, and that unless you are prepared to adopt every single feature of that country’s educational system, you’re not going to get anywhere near the results found in their math program.

There are many features that skew math scores in favor of Singapore, which includes year round education (students in Singapore go to school in July and August, believe it or not….) and a very low child poverty rate (8.2% versus 22% in the United States), both of which alone would account for much of the disparity, setting aside curriculum.

But there are two nefarious features of education in Singapore that we might want to consider before admiring it as an educational leader. Unlike the US, Singapore only provides limited educational services for students with physical or intellectual impairments, and exempts them from testing (which includes international comparisons.)

But the chief reason for Singapore’s educational success can be placed on the omnipresence of Singapore’s “cram schools,” which are attended by 97% of the school-aged population. These educational centers, which have been termed the “tuition industrial complex,” are highly profitable enterprises which students attend in the evenings and on weekends. In fact, if you add up the low rate of child poverty in Singapore, the fact that schooling is year round (and omits those with disabilities) and the influence of “cram schools,” the actual role of using a Singapore Math curriculum is negligible. Yet, schools are foolishly spending lots of money on materials and training in the expectation that their scores will rise to the top as well.

Q: What do you think these students in Singapore are doing after school and on weekends? A: Going to more math classes!

So what does this all have to do with Sy Syms? As Robert is fond of saying, “an informed math teacher is an effective math teacher,” which means that the next time a teacher is asked why the school does not use Singapore Math, he/she has an answer that is both wise and based on actual information, instead of random test numbers.

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